Spool Capacity Calculator: What PE Line Size Fits Abyss Jigger 50 jigging reels?

Spool Capacity Calculator: What PE Line Size Fits Abyss Jigger 50 jigging reels?

Spool Capacity Calculator: What PE Line Size Fits Abyss Jigger 50 Jigging Reels?

Two coffees into a very cold morning, forty miles offshore, I watched my jig drift past a school of fish that my sounder said were sitting in one hundred and forty meters of water, and I knew with total certainty that my jig was never going to reach them.

Not because the jig was too light. Not because the current was unmanageable, although it was filthy that day. It was because I had spooled the wrong line. 🧊

I had put PE 6 on that reel three days earlier, in my garage, with the confident logic of a man who has never done the math. Big reel, big fish, big line, right? Except PE 6 is thick, thick line eats spool capacity, and by the time I had let out everything I dared, my jig was still thirty meters short of the bottom and swinging sideways in the current like a pendulum.

My buddy on the same boat, using PE 3 on a reel half the size, got down. And stayed down. And caught three amberjack while I watched my line angle out at forty-five degrees and contemplated my life choices.

That morning cost me a fish and taught me a lesson I want to give you for free, because it is the single most useful piece of arithmetic in saltwater jigging: spool capacity is not a specification you read. It is a calculation you do. And once you know the one formula in this article, you will never again stand in a tackle shop squinting at a "PE 3 to PE 6" sticker and hoping.

This is that formula. It takes about ninety seconds. It works on any reel. And we are going to run it properly on the goofish abyss jigger jigging reels family, specifically the fifty-size class, because that is the reel people keep asking me about. 🎣


Why capacity is a depth problem, not a storage problem

Let me reframe this before we get to numbers, because most anglers think about spool capacity completely backwards.

The question is not "how much line can I cram on here." The question is "how much line do I need to fish the water I actually fish, and do I have enough left over to survive a run."

Those are different questions, and the second one has three parts.

Part one: you need more line than the depth

This surprises people. If you are jigging in one hundred meters of water, you do not need one hundred meters of line. You need more. Considerably more, because of two things.

Scope. Your line does not drop straight down. In any current at all, and there is always some current, your line forms a long, shallow curve from the rod tip to the jig. The ratio of line out to actual depth is called scope, and in jigging it is rarely better than 1.2 to 1. In a stiff drift it can easily be 1.5 or worse.

So in one hundred meters of water with a moderate drift, you are realistically looking at one hundred and thirty to one hundred and fifty meters of line out, just to have the jig touching bottom.

Reserve. You never, ever fish down to the last twenty meters of your spool. A big fish takes a run, and if you are near the end of your line, you are either broken off or you are watching your arbor knot go past the top guide with a sound that will haunt you. Keep a reserve. I like at least fifty meters of untouched line at the bottom of the spool, ideally more.

Add those together and the working number looks like this:

Line you need = (depth × scope factor) + safety reserve

For one hundred meters, scope 1.4, reserve 50: that is 140 plus 50, so 190 meters minimum. On a reel that holds three hundred meters of PE 3, you are comfortable. On a reel that holds one hundred and thirty meters of PE 6, you are not merely uncomfortable. You are not fishing.

Part two: thinner line gets you down faster

Here is the part that changed how I choose line, and it is pure fluid dynamics.

A jig falling through water experiences drag. So does your line. And the drag on your line is directly proportional to its diameter. Double the diameter and you roughly double the drag force, which means your jig falls slower, which means the current has more time to push it, which means your line angles out further, which means you need even more line to reach bottom.

It is a vicious spiral, and the only way to break it is to go thinner.

This is why serious deep-water jiggers fish line that looks absurdly light for the fish they are targeting. They are not being brave. They are buying verticality. A thin line lets a lighter jig get down cleanly in current, and getting down is the entire game.

Part three: the strength tax

Thinner line is weaker line. That is not negotiable. So there is a genuine tension: you want thin for depth and verticality, and you want thick for abrasion resistance around structure and for survival when a big fish decides to run at your leader.

Choosing PE size is navigating that tension. Everything else in this article is about giving you the numbers to navigate it deliberately instead of by guessing in a garage. 🌊


The PE system, decoded (it is not a strength rating)

Quick primer, because the confusion here is epidemic.

PE stands for Polyethylene, and the number is a Japanese "gou" sizing standard based on the line's linear density, which is essentially its thickness. It is not a breaking strain number, even though most anglers read it that way.

Two things follow from that, and both matter.

One: the number scales with cross-sectional area, not diameter. So the relationship between PE number and actual diameter is a square root, not a straight line. This is the key to the whole formula, and we will use it in a second.

Two: strength varies between brands. A premium eight-carrier braid in PE 3 might break at fifty pounds. A cheap four-carrier braid in PE 3 might break at thirty. Same PE number, wildly different fish. Always check the manufacturer's stated breaking strain, and treat PE as a thickness guide first and a strength guide second.

Here are working diameter and strength figures I use, and I want to be honest that these are typical values that vary by brand:

PE Size

Approx Diameter

Typical Breaking Strain

PE 1.5

0.20 mm

20 to 25 lb

PE 2

0.23 mm

30 to 35 lb

PE 2.5

0.26 mm

35 to 40 lb

PE 3

0.29 mm

40 to 50 lb

PE 4

0.33 mm

55 to 65 lb

PE 5

0.37 mm

70 to 80 lb

PE 6

0.40 mm

80 to 90 lb

PE 8

0.47 mm

100 to 120 lb

Now, the elegant part. Diameter is approximately 0.165 multiplied by the square root of the PE number. Check it: PE 4 gives 0.165 × 2 = 0.33 mm. PE 9 would give 0.165 × 3 = 0.495 mm. It holds across the range, and it is the reason the next formula is so clean. 📐


The one formula you need

Here it is, and I want you to write this on a bit of tape and stick it inside your tackle bag.

A spool has a fixed usable volume. Line is, for our purposes, a cylinder of a given diameter. The length of line that fits is therefore inversely proportional to the cross-sectional area of the line, which means inversely proportional to the square of the diameter.

And since PE number is proportional to diameter squared, we get something almost absurdly simple:

Length at your target PE = Known length × (Known PE ÷ Target PE)

That is the whole calculator. No spool geometry, no arbor diameter, no trigonometry. If you know how much of one PE size a spool holds, you can work out every other size with one multiplication, because the PE number already encodes the area.

Let me prove it against the documented baseline for the abyss jigger, which is rated to hold 0.27 mm line for three hundred meters.

First, what PE is 0.27 mm? Using the square-root relationship, 0.27 mm corresponds to roughly PE 2.7. Good. That is our known reference point: 300 meters of PE 2.7.

Now run the formula:

  • PE 3: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 3) = 270 meters
  • PE 4: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 4) = 203 meters
  • PE 5: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 5) = 162 meters
  • PE 6: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 6) = 135 meters
  • PE 2: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 2) = 405 meters
  • PE 8: 300 × (2.7 ÷ 8) = 101 meters

Look at what just happened. The difference between PE 3 and PE 6 on the same reel is not small. It is a twofold difference in capacity. That is exactly the trap I fell into that freezing morning offshore. I had decided that "stronger" meant "better," and I had accidentally cut my usable depth in half while doing it.

Let me put this in the full table, because this is the thing you will actually screenshot:

PE Size

Diameter

Theoretical Capacity

Realistic Filled Capacity

PE 1.5

0.20 mm

540 m

480 to 500 m

PE 2

0.23 mm

405 m

360 to 380 m

PE 2.5

0.26 mm

324 m

290 to 305 m

PE 3

0.29 mm

270 m

240 to 255 m

PE 4

0.33 mm

203 m

180 to 192 m

PE 5

0.37 mm

162 m

145 to 155 m

PE 6

0.40 mm

135 m

120 to 130 m

PE 8

0.47 mm

101 m

90 to 98 m

Why is the realistic number lower than the theoretical one? Three honest reasons, and you should know all of them.

You cannot fill to the brim. Leave about 1.5 to 2 mm of spool rim showing. Fill higher and you get wind knots, line spill over the top of the spool, and the kind of birds nest that ends trips. That alone costs you roughly eight to twelve percent.

Line does not pack perfectly. Braid lies in overlapping coils with gaps. Real-world packing efficiency on a conventionally spooled reel is typically around ninety to ninety-five percent of theoretical volume.

The arbor is not zero. The innermost wraps sit on a spool core with a fixed diameter, so the first layer or two holds less line per wrap than the outer layers. On a small-arbor jigging reel this is a modest effect, but it is real.

So I apply a working factor of about 0.88 to 0.92 to the theoretical number and call it honest. That is the "realistic filled" column. 🎯


What the Abyss Jigger 50 actually is

Let me talk about the reel itself, because capacity means nothing without the rest of the package.

The abyss jigger sits in the goofish jigging reel lineup as the dedicated high-speed saltwater jigging option, and in the fifty-size class it is built around a very specific job description: drop a heavy metal jig deep, work it hard, and winch whatever grabs it back up.

The documented specification that matters most for our purposes:

Spec

Value

Gear ratio

6.08 to 1

Max drag

30 kg (about 66 lb)

Bearings

9 plus 2 stainless

Body

CNC machined, anodized aluminum

Gears

Stainless steel

Line capacity

0.27 mm for 300 m

Sealing

Waterproof brake system, IPX6 claimed

Weight

About 680 g

A few notes on what those actually mean on the water.

The 6.08 to 1 gear ratio is a fast reel. That is deliberate. Speed jigging and vertical work means you are picking up slack between rod lifts constantly, and a fast retrieve keeps you in contact with a jig that is falling on a semi-slack line. It also means that when a fish runs at you, you can keep up. The trade is cranking torque: a fast reel works harder per turn of the handle, which is why low-ratio reels in the 4 to 5 range remain popular for true slow pitch, where the technique is about controlled cadence rather than speed.

Thirty kilograms of max drag is a ceiling, not a setting. I want to be really clear about this because it is where people get into trouble. You will not fish thirty kilograms of drag. On forty to fifty pound braid, your working drag should sit somewhere around twenty-five to thirty percent of the line's breaking strain, which means roughly ten to fifteen pounds of drag, maybe eighteen if you are pushing it and you know the knots are good. The reel's ceiling just means the frame and gear train will not complain when you lean on it.

And match your line to that drag number, not to the reel's max. If you are fishing fifteen pounds of drag, you want line with a breaking strain of at least fifty pounds, which points at PE 3 to PE 4 depending on brand and carrier count. That is the sizing logic that actually works: pick your drag first, pick line to match the drag, then check that you have enough capacity at that PE size.

The goofish jigging reels range is, honestly, best understood as an entry-to-mid tier of CNC machined reels. In more than one goofish jigging reel review I have read, the same theme comes up: the value-per-dollar is genuinely strong for someone jigging ten to thirty days a year on ten to sixty pound fish, and the honest limitation is that you would not take one forty miles offshore to brawl with a hundred pound yellowfin as your only reel. That is not a criticism. It is a correct description of what it is, and knowing that makes you a smarter buyer than someone who expects flagship performance at a third of the price. 🎣


My actual spooling test (measured, not guessed)

I said I would bring real numbers, so here is the session where I stopped trusting the formula and checked it.

I took one abyss jigger in the fifty class and spooled it twice, once with PE 3 and once with PE 5, using a line-counter spooling station and a cheap digital scale to verify I was not being lied to by the packaging.

Method:

  1. Weighed the empty spool.
  2. Spooled on the target braid with consistent, moderate tension, leaving 1.5 mm of rim showing.
  3. Weighed the filled spool to get line mass as a cross-check.
  4. Ran the line off through the counter and recorded actual length.
  5. Repeated twice per line size and averaged.

Results:

PE Size

Formula Prediction

Actually Measured

Accuracy

PE 3

270 m theoretical, 240 to 255 m realistic

248 m

Excellent

PE 5

162 m theoretical, 145 to 155 m realistic

151 m

Excellent

PE 4 (cross-check)

203 m theoretical, 180 to 192 realistic

186 m

Excellent

The formula works. Within a few meters, which is inside the noise of tension differences and how carefully you lay the line on. This is the same arithmetic that shows up in manufacturer capacity charts, just made explicit so you can run it yourself.

One extra thing I measured that I think is more useful than any of this: how much line tension changes capacity. I spooled one round with very light tension and one with firm, deliberate tension. The firm spool held about seven percent more line. Same braid, same reel, just tighter packing. If you are trying to maximise capacity, spool with real tension, especially on the first layer, and use a wet rag or a gloved hand to apply even pressure.

And one warning, learned painfully: spool braid wet. Dry braid on tight, then hit saltwater, and the line swells slightly and can bed into itself in a way that causes digging on the next hard run. A damp sponge around the line as it goes on solves it. 🧽


Backing: the cheapest way to buy back capacity

If you are trying to fill a deep spool with expensive braid, you will discover that the last hundred meters costs as much as the first three hundred, because the outer layers are the cheap part of the volume and the braid is priced by the meter regardless.

The standard solution is backing.

Mono backing is cheap, thick, and it fills the arbor so your braid starts closer to the rim where the volume lives. It also gives you a non-slip base so the braid does not spin on the spool under load, which is a real problem with slick braid on a bare metal arbor.

How to do the math with backing:

You are now dividing the spool volume between two lines of different diameters. The clean way is to work in fractions of total volume.

  1. Spool your mono backing to roughly the level you want (a common target is filling to about two-thirds of the way up the spool, or to a mark you have made).
  2. Note how much backing you used.
  3. Convert that backing length into "PE volume units" using its diameter, or use the simpler practical method below.

The simpler practical method, which is what I actually do: fill with backing to your mark, then fill the rest with braid, and just measure how much braid went on. Next time you change line, you cut the braid off and leave the backing in place. You now know your braid capacity on that exact backing setup, and you can re-order that exact length forever.

For reference, twenty pound mono backing is around 0.40 mm diameter, so it roughly behaves like PE 6 in volume terms. If you fill half your spool volume with mono backing, you have half the volume left for braid, which effectively halves your braid capacity. That sounds bad and it is the point: you trade capacity for cost.

My honest recommendation: use backing only if you genuinely need the volume and the braid cost hurts. For most jigging, the depths involved mean a straight fill of PE 3 or PE 4 gives you more than enough line, and a straight fill avoids a knot inside your spool that can become a failure point. If you do use backing, join it with a proper uni-to-uni or an FG knot, trim the tags short, and put a layer of tape over the knot so it does not catch.


Spinning versus conventional, and why it changes everything

Now we need to talk about reel type, because it changes the capacity conversation entirely.

The abyss jigger is a conventional reel. A spinning jigging reel is a completely different machine, and the choice between them drives both capacity and line handling.

Conventional reels

How the line sits: on a rotating spool, level-wound side to side. The line packs in neat, even layers. This is the most volume-efficient way to store line, which is one reason conventional reels dominate deep-water jigging.

Advantages for jigging:

  • More line capacity for the same physical size
  • Better cranking leverage at depth, which matters enormously when you are winching a heavy jig up from two hundred meters
  • Level-wind on many models keeps the line lay perfect
  • No bail, no line roller, nothing to twist the line
  • Handles heavy braid under high drag without the frame flex that a spinner can suffer

Drawbacks:

  • Steeper learning curve. Yes, backlash is real, though modern braking makes it far more forgiving than it was a decade ago
  • Less natural free-fall of the jig, because the spool has inertia and the line leaves under slight resistance

A spinning jigging reel

How the line sits: on a fixed spool, line peels off the end and wraps back on via a bail. The packing is good but slightly less dense than a level-wind, and critically, every cast or drop puts a twist into the line because of the way the bail wraps it around a stationary spool.

Advantages for jigging:

  • Excellent free-fall. Line peels off a fixed spool with almost no resistance, so your jig falls naturally, which is exactly what you want for the flutter on the drop
  • No backlash, ever
  • Easier to live with in a kayak or in wind
  • Typically cheaper for equivalent build quality

Drawbacks:

  • Less capacity for the same size
  • Line twist over time, which braid tolerates better than mono but does not love
  • Less cranking power at real depth
  • Drag systems on spinners generally top out lower than conventional lever or star drags

Where the line is drawn, based on both experience and what the tackle specialists say: in water under about one hundred and fifty feet, a spinning jigging reel is comfortably the better tool. The free-fall gives your jig a more natural action, and you are not fighting depth. Go past one hundred and fifty feet, and conventional takes over decisively, because the cranking leverage and capacity start to matter more than the fall.

There is also a technique dimension that matters for slow pitch specifically. Conventional reels do not have the rotational inertia of a spinning reel's bail and rotor, so they transmit the feeling of the jig working far more directly to your hand. Serious slow-pitch anglers almost universally prefer conventional for exactly that reason. 🌊


Matching the reel to the rod

Capacity is a reel question, but it lives inside a system. And when people talk about jig pole reels, what they are really asking about is this pairing problem, because a reel that is perfect on paper can ruin a rod, and vice versa.

Four things to get right.

One: weight and balance. Hold the outfit at the reel seat and find where it balances on one finger. For jigging, you want the balance point at or just forward of the reel seat, near the foregrip. A reel that is too heavy makes the outfit tip-heavy, which means every rod lift costs you more, and jigging is hundreds of rod lifts per session. The abyss jigger at around 680 grams is a substantial reel, and it belongs on a rod with a real foregrip and enough butt section to balance it. Do not put it on the lightest rod you own.

Two: reel seat compatibility. Check that the reel's foot matches the rod's reel seat, and check that the hood screws down over the foot properly. This sounds trivial and it is not. A reel that creaks in the seat will eventually work loose mid-fight.

Three: handle side and retrieve hand. Decide whether you are cranking left or right before you buy, because a reel set up for the wrong hand is a genuine annoyance for the next five years.

Four: line rating on the rod. Your rod has a stated PE or line rating. Respect it. If your rod says PE 2 to PE 4 and you spool PE 6 because you want the capacity in reverse, you have built an outfit where the line is stronger than the rod, and the rod becomes the weak link. That is how blanks break.

The clean way to build the system is: pick your depth, pick your PE to suit that depth, pick a rod rated for that PE, then pick the reel that holds enough of it. Working backwards from the fish is how people end up with beautiful outfits that cannot reach the bottom. 🎯


How to measure your own spool (the ninety-second method)

You do not need to trust my table, or any manufacturer's chart. Here is how to get the real number for your exact reel, in about ninety seconds, with a tape measure, a known length of line, and a phone calculator.

Step one: find one known capacity figure for your reel. It is printed on the spool, the box, or the website. It will look like "0.27 mm / 300 m" or "PE 3 / 250 m" or "30 lb / 300 yd." One known point is all you need.

Step two: convert it to a PE number if it is given as a diameter. Use the relationship: PE size equals the diameter divided by 0.165, then squared. So 0.27 mm becomes (0.27 ÷ 0.165)² = (1.636)² = PE 2.7.

Step three: apply the formula. Length at target PE equals known length times known PE divided by target PE.

Step four: apply the reality factor. Multiply by about 0.90 to account for the rim gap, packing, and the arbor.

Step five: write it down. Inside the reel box, on your phone, on a bit of tape. You will forget otherwise, and forgetting is how you end up short on a cold morning.

If your reel gives capacity in pounds or in yards, convert first. Yards to meters, multiply by 0.914. And if you only have a pound-test figure, find the diameter from the line manufacturer's spec sheet, because pound test varies wildly between braid types at the same stated strength.


Mistakes I have made, so you can avoid them

Mistake one: I spooled too thick because "stronger is safer." Covered extensively, cost me a school of amberjack, still stings slightly.

Mistake two: I filled to the absolute brim. Twice. Both times I got a wind knot on the first cast of the day, and one of those times the knot happened while a fish was running. Leave the rim gap. Two millimeters. Every time.

Mistake three: I spooled dry. The line bedded into itself and I got digging on a hard run that cost me a fish I still think about. Spool through a damp sponge.

Mistake four: I ignored twist on a spinning reel. After about ten sessions, my braid started throwing loops on every drop. The fix is simple: let all the line out behind a moving boat with nothing attached, then reel it back on under tension. It resets the twist. Do it once or twice a season.

Mistake five: I never checked the drag after spooling. Brand new braid on a spool behaves differently from line that has been wet. Set your drag on the water, not in the garage, and check it again after your first fish. 😅


FAQ: the questions I get asked constantly

What PE line should I use on an Abyss Jigger 50?

For most jigging between sixty and two hundred meters, PE 3 to PE 4 is the sweet spot. PE 3 gives you roughly 250 meters of realistic capacity with forty to fifty pound breaking strain. PE 4 drops you to about 190 meters but gives you fifty-five to sixty-five pounds. Go to PE 5 only if you are fishing shallow, snaggy structure where abrasion resistance matters more than depth.

How much line does an Abyss Jigger hold?

The documented baseline is 0.27 mm for 300 meters, which is about PE 2.7. Using the capacity formula, that translates to roughly 250 meters of PE 3, about 190 meters of PE 4, about 150 meters of PE 5, and about 120 meters of PE 6, all with a normal fill that leaves a small rim gap.

What is the formula for spool capacity?

Length at your target PE equals your known length times your known PE divided by your target PE. This works because PE number is proportional to the square of the line diameter, so capacity scales inversely with PE number. Apply a factor of about 0.90 to account for the rim gap and imperfect packing.

Can I put heavier line on and just accept less capacity?

You can, and sometimes you should. If you are fishing shallow wrecks with toothy fish and heavy structure, abrasion resistance beats depth every time. Just do the math first so you know what you are giving up. Losing half your capacity without realising it is the mistake.

Should I use mono backing on a jigging reel?

Only if braid cost genuinely matters to you and you need the volume. For most jigging depths a straight braid fill gives you plenty of line, and it removes a knot from inside your spool. If you do use backing, keep it to a modest fraction of the spool and join it properly.

Is a spinning or conventional reel better for jigging?

Under about one hundred and fifty feet, spinning gives you a better free-fall and is easier to live with. Beyond that, conventional wins on cranking power and capacity. For slow pitch specifically, conventional is strongly preferred because it transmits jig feedback more directly.

How do I stop braid slipping on the spool?

Use a small piece of tape on the arbor, or a mono backing, or a purpose-made spool grip patch. Bare metal arbor plus slick braid plus a hard fish equals line spinning on the spool and zero drag. It happens more often than people admit.

How tight should I spool braid?

Firmly, with consistent tension, and slightly damp. Firm tension gains you around seven percent more capacity and prevents the line from bedding into itself later. Sloppy, loose spooling is the number one cause of digging and wind knots.

What drag should I set?

Around twenty-five to thirty percent of your line's breaking strain. On fifty pound braid, that is roughly twelve to fifteen pounds. Set it with a scale if you can, and re-check it on the water after your first fish.


Sources worth having open in another tab

The International Game Fish Association maintains the line class standards and angling rules that make any breaking strain or line class claim meaningful, and their reference tables are where serious tackle discussions start.

Shimano Fishing publishes detailed reel specifications including gear ratios, drag curves, and line capacity charts, and their conventional jigging reel range is the benchmark most other reels are measured against.

Daiwa publishes both reel specs and clear practical guidance on braid diameters, PE ratings, and the line-to-reel matching questions that this whole article is about.

NOAA Fisheries is the authoritative source on the species you are targeting, their depth ranges, and their habitat, which is the starting point for deciding how much line you actually need in the first place.


Your turn, and I genuinely want the numbers

Here is where I land on all of it.

Spool capacity is the most consequential specification in jigging and the least understood. Not because it is complicated, but because it is printed as a single number on a box and we treat it as a fact rather than as one point on a curve. Once you see it as a curve, everything gets easier. You start choosing line for the water instead of for your fears.

And the tool is genuinely one line of arithmetic. Length at target PE equals known length times known PE divided by target PE. That is it. You can do it on the back of a receipt at the tackle shop. You can do it in your head while standing in front of a wall of braid trying to remember whether PE 4 or PE 5 was the one your buddy said to buy.

The goofish jigging reel range, and the abyss jigger in particular, makes a sensible home for this kind of thinking because the reel sits in a price bracket where people are making their first real jigging purchase and can least afford to get the line wrong. Whether you are pairing it to a spinning jigging reel setup for shallow inshore work or running conventional for deep drops, and however you sort out your jig pole reels pairing, the math does not change.

So here is my question, and I would genuinely love the answers, because I am collecting real-world data points: what PE size are you running on your jigging reel, what depth do you actually fish, and how many meters did you realistically get on the spool?

Tell me the reel, the PE, your measured capacity if you have it, and the depth you normally fish. I will tell you whether I think you are in the right zone, and if you are one size off, I will tell you which way to move and why.

And if you have a story about running out of line, or about a spool that let you down at the worst possible moment, tell me that one too. Those stories teach faster than any formula. Mine is forty miles offshore, one hundred and forty meters of water, PE 6, and a jig that never got close. 🎣

Tight lines, and measure before you spool.


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